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I'm looking to buy my first bike and the 2012 Ninja 250R looks awesome to me. I'm from San Francisco, CA and new at dealership is $4,199 I know there's a bunch of hidden fees and I definitely don't want to pay the full OTD price.. the plan is to negociate what would be a good price that I would be able to get away with? I see a lot of people saying buy used but I've looked around and a 2008 250R minimum is 3K already if lucky.. so with 4 years already on it and not knowing what it's been through I'm willing to pay a little extra for a brand new sexy looking perfect bike. I've rode a moped before and I know it's a whole different game but that gives me some experience riding at least. I see a lot of people saying go used because people drop bikes at stops and etc, why is that? Anything I could do to avoid that? I've never had any trouble with that on my moped.. Also another reason people say go used is because I'll out grow the 250R and want to move onto bigger & badder but I'm 5'7-5'8 at about 125 pounds and I would mainly only be doing city riding but I would also like to ripp down the street any chance I get :biggrin2 with that said would the 250R satisfy my style in riding or would the 650R be better?
 

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The Ninja 250R is a perfect bike to start off on. I would recommend getting a 250R and riding it for at least 6 months before you upgrade to a 650R

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I started out on a Honda 80cc scooter for about 4 years and have only dropped my 250 once, but I believe that it was because the front tire's tread was completely gone. I think you should be fine. Most newbies don't drop the bike at high speeds, but at stops and starting out. It's usually a balance issue.

The 250 has a top speed of about 100mph and faster acceleration than most cars. It also gets better mpg than all other bigger bikes. It's quick and nimble and a blast to ride. You'll love it. Most people that "outgrow" their 250's just want something with more power. I've had my '07 for about a year and I'm perfectly content with all that it does. It's got a great balance of everything



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People probably don't drop mopeds as frequently as motorcycles simply because mopeds are fairly light and the majority of the mass(weight) that they do carry has a very low center of gravity. Look at any moped and observe where the heavy bits are placed. At or very near the plane of the wheels axle. Motorcycles typically carry more weight with considerably bigger components i.e. larger engines, more fuel capacity, heavier forks, heavier frames, etc. Think of where the mass is generally centered on a motorcycle platform. The center of gravity will be much higher. The higher the center of gravity the more tricky it can be to maneuver at slow or no speed. This is why many bikes get dropped especially new bikes with new riders.

I don't believe that you are required to have a class M license for a moped but you will need one for a motorcycle in California. I would suggest taking an MSF course in your area to assist with your transition to a motorcycle.
 

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I have a 2009 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R that i upgraded too about a year ago, but I ride my 250R alot more. It is much more fun and I think it is a smoother ride. I am getting ready to own a second 250 just because I can't stay away from the Ninja 250R.

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Get the Ninja 250 and don't look back. And ignore all those who tell you "you will outgrow it" or "you will get bored of it" or "only girls and newbs ride 250's" and certainly don't let anyone ridicule you. You are a rider, and the 250 is the best cornering bike that there is. It accelerates as fast as a Subaru Impreza, and has a top speed of about 100mph. If you get a bigger bike, you will miss the 250. And also, getting a bike that is bigger than a 250 is not an "upgrade", it is simply a new bike, which you will have to learn all over again. Do a little research about beginners on big bikes, and make the decision for yourself.
 
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