: - '07 ninja rearsets
winski 01-11-2011, 07:46 AM does anyone know where i can find some rearsets for my '05? all i can find are the woodcrafts for the late model ninjas. i want to move my pegs back and up similar to the woodcraft sets but like i said i have an '05.
thanks in advance.
250guy 01-11-2011, 10:58 AM Why do you need Ninja 250 rearsets? I'm wondering if that's a mod I should do to my bike.
minichris 01-11-2011, 01:59 PM ^clearance. you don't want to be dragging peg. Not something you need to worry about until you really start leaning her over.
-riding position. puts you in a more aggressive position
250guy 01-11-2011, 04:32 PM Ah I see. So how far can you lean a stock Ninja 250 before you start dragging things? Can you touch knee with stock rearsets?
And this is the only bike I've spent any real amount of time on. How would you describe "aggressive" seating position?
slowestmotion 01-11-2011, 05:32 PM I don't know the exact angle you can lean a Ninja 250, but it's not very much. Rearsets definitely help give you more ground clearance which is particularly useful once you start going faster and use more of the tire.
The Ninja 250 seating position is very neutral; which means that you're not leaning too far forward like a sportbike nor too far backward like a cruiser. It's just....neutral. Higher footpegs will cause the upper half of your body to lean forward a little more. That's what minichris means by aggressive seating position.
250guy 01-12-2011, 10:15 AM I see. So what do you mean by using more of the tire? It seems like bikes already have a small contact patch with the ground as it is.
Now that you mention it, I do see what you're saying about the Ninja 250 seating position. After sitting on some bikes at the Long Beach bike show a couple weeks ago I did notice how some sportbikes have a more "aggressive" seating position. So does that make it easier to drag knee?
slowestmotion 01-12-2011, 11:28 AM What I mean by using more of the tire is that, when a bike is rolling straight up and down, only the center of the tire is touching the ground. Once you start going faster and leaning the bike over more you'll start to use more and more of the tire's edges. "Chicken strips" are what's known as the amount of unused tire closest to the tire's edge. The smaller that amount, the more lean angle you're doing. Obviously, that's a finite amount...so don't go over!
slowestmotion 01-12-2011, 11:29 AM And about the second part of your post...an aggressive seating position can make it easier to drag knee as it puts your whole body in better position for aggressive riding: butt off the seat, head out, looking through the turn, the knee just naturally wants to stick out.
250guy 01-13-2011, 12:08 PM What I mean by using more of the tire is that, when a bike is rolling straight up and down, only the center of the tire is touching the ground. Once you start going faster and leaning the bike over more you'll start to use more and more of the tire's edges. "Chicken strips" are what's known as the amount of unused tire closest to the tire's edge. The smaller that amount, the more lean angle you're doing. Obviously, that's a finite amount...so don't go over!
Haha..."chicken strips"...that's awesome. If that's what they're called then I've got enough to make KFC proud! Thanks for clearing that up.
250guy 01-13-2011, 12:09 PM And about the second part of your post...an aggressive seating position can make it easier to drag knee as it puts your whole body in better position for aggressive riding: butt off the seat, head out, looking through the turn, the knee just naturally wants to stick out.
I find myself starting to do that already when I ride the 250r. How is it different on true sport bikes?
slowestmotion 01-14-2011, 10:01 AM I find myself starting to do that already when I ride the 250r. How is it different on true sport bikes?
As you start to get better, you'll hopefully start to pay more attention to the finer aspects of what your body is doing on the bike when you're in a corner. Sure the Ninja 250 allows you to form generally proper body position, but when you start to practice proper body position on a real sport bike after learning on your Ninja, it'll feel like second nature. Your hands will feel more comfortable as you move your body around, your head will be more free to move, and your knee will naturally want to stick out.
250guy 01-18-2011, 11:19 AM Interesting point, Slowestmotion. I guess I never really thought about what made the Ninja 250 any different than a real sportbike other than power. I guess when I eventually hop on something bigger I'll get what you're talking about.
Cazper 01-18-2011, 09:15 PM I can tell you that you don't need rearsets on the 250R for ground clearance as I've gotten rid of my chicken strips and still have stock rearsets. The idea of hanging off and eventually dropping your knee down actually decreases the amount of lean necessary to make the corner as you are shifting the center of gravity allowing you to make a tighter corner. There are a lot of physics at work while riding... the more you learn the better.
minichris 01-19-2011, 01:13 PM ^rearsets will be needed once a certain pace is attained
Cazper 01-19-2011, 09:26 PM I could see maybe if you are racing on the track they would be necessary for ground clearance. If you are riding only on the streets... and anywhere close to within the speed limit... I doubt it. I've had to go over the speed limit on mountain twisties to wear out the chicken strips and never even got close to draggin pegs... I would say you'd have to be pushing the bike to it's limits to actually drag peg... maybe I'm wrong?!?!
minichris 01-20-2011, 11:05 AM ^you're correct. For everyday street use clearance isn't an issue. An experienced rider could drag peg quite easily on the track or on a "spirited" canyon run.
slowestmotion 01-20-2011, 01:54 PM ^you're correct. For everyday street use clearance isn't an issue. An experienced rider could drag peg quite easily on the track or on a "spirited" canyon run.
But we don't do that around here. We're all respectful, dignified riders. :)
I'd say for 90% of street riding, the stock pegs are fine. It's when you start to push limits on the track or canyons (which we'd NEVER do...) do the rearsets matter on ninja 250s.
250guy 01-21-2011, 02:47 PM But we don't do that around here. We're all respectful, dignified riders. :)
I'd say for 90% of street riding, the stock pegs are fine. It's when you start to push limits on the track or canyons (which we'd NEVER do...) do the rearsets matter on ninja 250s.
Ok. So far I haven't touched my pegs down so I'll hold off on ninja 250 rearsets until I start doing that more consistently.
slowestmotion 01-24-2011, 04:55 PM Ok. So far I haven't touched my pegs down so I'll hold off on ninja 250 rearsets until I start doing that more consistently.
Another thing to remember is that the stock pegs on most bikes (ninja 250 included) are foldable, so if you do happen to scrape them on the ground while leaning, don't panic. Just don't put an excessive amount of pressure on the pegs.
winski 02-01-2011, 10:17 PM i don't need the pegs for clearance, i just want a more aggressive seating position. i can't seem to find any though
i don't need the pegs for clearance, i just want a more aggressive seating position. i can't seem to find any though
Put on some platform shoes? :lmfao
winski 02-03-2011, 08:26 PM Put on some platform shoes? :lmfao
haha never thought of that!
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